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IP: 68.1.133.222 6/08/2006 21:06:13 |
 Subject: solar nails/acrylic nailsMessage: I am a licensed Nail Technician in Macon, GA. I have been doing acrylic nails for 13 years. A couple of my clients have been coming to me for those 13 yrs. There is no harm in acrylic. Your nails are constantly growing, so it can't do any permanent damage. Anything on your nails for any lenght of time, is going to weeken them. Your nails need oxygen to be strong. Most of my clients didn't have strong nails to start with, so they have lost nothing, and have gained pretty, worry free nails. As for the question, "what is the difference between acrylic and solar nails?", nothing. Solar Nail is a brand name made by Creative Nail Design. It is acrylic, just marketed differently. |
| Jessica IP: 66.141.164.137 6/08/2006 21:13:38 |  RE: solar nails/acrylic nailsMessage: idonls, This forum is about NATURAL NAILS, not about fake nails. Acrylic nails do harm natural nails. They are made from toxic and hazardous chemicals. They also are dangerous, pricey, and time-consuming, given the inevitable bi-weekly costs for maintenance and fills. Nail enhancement products, including acrylics and gels, have been shown to severely damage the integrity of the natural nails, leading to permanent damage. That's not something to take lightly. You would probably do better posting your message on a forum that's for fake nails, not a natural nails forum. This site is about taking care of our own natural nails, because there are no safer nails than our own nails! |
| idonls IP: 68.1.133.222 6/08/2006 21:18:44 |  RE: solar nails/acrylic nailsMessage: I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I read a question about solar nails. I don't think you have all of your info correct. You obviously have had a bad experience. I am sorry for that. |
| Jessica IP: 66.141.164.137 6/08/2006 22:02:31 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: idonls, I have never had a bad experience with fakes of any kind because I've never had them. I know the damage they can cause from reading other peoples' horror stories. What we say is the absolute truth! One of my aunts and a few of my cousins have had bad experiences with fake nails. They say that it hurts to get theirs done. My aunt also got a horrible fungal infection and had one of her natural nails rot off due to those "things". They still won't give those things up. Things bonded to the natural nails are of absolutely no benefit to the natural nails. Any topical treatment adhered to the surface of the nails will in fact cause some damage to the natural nails. |
| cheryl IP: 206.159.161.156 6/08/2006 22:41:19 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: idonis, most of us here have had terrible reactions to acrylic nails. more than a few of us. fungal and bacterial infections, allergic reactions to the acrylic that resulted in inflamation and pus, thinning of the nail beds so completely that it takes a year or more for the pain and sensitivity to stop. to say that there is "no harm" in acrylics is irresponsible. i find it hard to believe, that, in 13 years, you've never had a client that didn't have one of these problems. too many of us, and not just here, have had bad reactions and even worse, have and had, been lied to over and over. sanitary conditions, in most nail salons i patronized, were deplorable-and i tried many-just trying to find ONE that didn't leave me with a bad feeling. we, as adults, hopefully make informed decisions. girls as young as 14, 15 years old, going into these "nail-chop shops", believe whatever they are told. i hope you are not under the impression that all nail salons will always do the right thing when it comes to their customers nail health. your industry needs some drastic changes. i guess i'm just not ready to settle for a product that you say "won't permanently damage my nail bed". any damage is too much. jessica's correct in saying this is a natural nail forum and we will contiue to disuade everyone from making this terrible choice when it comes to the well-being of their own nails. i never received ANY satisfaction when people would comment on my fakes and i would think," the only hand i had in these was when i reached into my wallet for the money". |
| Barbara IP: 69.19.14.40 6/09/2006 08:34:46 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: idonls...... Do you offer any manicures and care for the natural nails in your shop? And are you the shop owner or are you an employee of the shop? Do you use "power tools" to *rough up* the natural nails? I love the fact that women are finally waking up to the truth about the damage those topical treatments cause, and the medical problems they leave behind. I can not believe it when I still hear people say that those things "don't do any damage to the natural nails"!!!!!! It's like the politicians of today....just shout it, (whatever "it" is) long enough and loud enough, and people will believe. And sadly that happens to be the fact! People are easily lead to thing that are harmful, because people with heavier hand or louder voice take control. I would urge anyone considering the application of the fake nails to really do the research! I'm not talking about reading the reports, or stats from the industry. I am talking about talking to real women that have earned the right to say how horrid these products are. Get information from the medical industry, and find out about the chemicles. ask has an excellent search feature for defining these things. The following is posted publicly and I thought it was worth the copy/paste in this instance: Educate to Eradicate *EDUCATE TO ERADICATE* George Schaeffer President of Nail Manufacturers' Council With the nail care industry growing and prospering more and more each day, that growth brings new challenges and concerns. One of the largest concerns is how salons can maintain a good reputation in the midst of so many salons that have made consumers fear the use of harmful ingredients. MMA is an ingredient sometimes found in liquid monomers used to make artificial nail enhancements. MMA is considered safe for dental prosthesis, it is considered a health hazard when used in the salon. Clients should be warned of the risks associated with MMA including severe allergic reactions, permanent loss of sensation in the fingertips, nail damage and deformities, and respiratory problems with eye, nose and throat irritation. Rigidly adhered acrylic may also lead to serious nail breaks, causing infection and loss of the natural nail. The FDA classifies MMA as "a poisonous and deleterious substance," and has deemed it unsuitable for salon use. Even with this know, there are still salons using liquid monomers containing MMA. Consumers need to be aware of the signs that a salon may be using MMA. * Nails are difficult or impossible to remove * Nail enhancements won't soak off in solvents designed to remove acrylic. * Electric drills or extremely coarse files need to be used to remove the nails. * Unusually strong or strange odor. * Discount prices for acrylic services. (Monomers formulated with MMA are considerably less expensive to use.) * Secretiveness about bottles, labels or MSDS sheets. (Counterfeiters may be putting MMA in other manufacturer's bottles.) This is from someone in the industry, so you tell me! Are these things safe if this is an issue at all! I would not take the gamble on my health. It's like cigarettes....They all said it was safe, never mind the fact that people are dropping like flies! HELL-O!!!!! |
| Moi IP: 66.215.185.202 6/09/2006 09:12:11 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: idonls, I'll add my 3 cents because it's what I do best! You sound like someone who has a lot of information you want to share, and that's excellent, but please remember that there are too many people out here who have experienced long term if not permanent damage from the acrylic use to say that they will not hurt you. Acrylics DO damage your nail bed and they DO do permanent damage. 1-1/2 years after removing my own and I still have little mishapen areas on the sides of my nails that were caused by a reaction to the product. I know a lady who had them put on ONE time for her wedding pic and her nails have never been the same. To throw a blanket statement out there saying they are safe is not wise, nor is it accurate. Perhaps you've never come across anyone who cares enough about their natural nails to try and get them back in shape only to find it not as easy as 'just letting them grow out'. Someone sent Barb a picture of her hands after getting acrylics. She had BLISTERS around her cuticles - another lady posted recently that she too had a bad reaction to the chemicals, waited several months to have them reapplied and had yet another bad reaction. This is just from the product itself, let's not even 'go there' when we talk about the shoddy way the tools are maintained and how little educating some of the supposedly licensed techs are getting. A few years back, several shops here in my area were closed down because the techs were not really licensed. I wonder how much damage they did? |
| Jessica IP: 66.141.164.137 6/09/2006 09:56:11 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: Barbara, thanks for the important information about MMA. I think some of the nail shops I've been close to, such as the ones in Walmart stores, are using that product. I refuse to go in any of those salons. Most of them, including my aunt's salon, smell awful, like paint thinner. When I was standing next to a chop shop a few weeks ago, I saw a technician use a drill to "rough up" someone's nails to prepare them for fakes. Moi, I saw those pictures of that lady's hands with blisters around her nails. They looked awful and very painful. Anyone who tells you acrylics and other fakes are safe and non-damaging to the natural nails is lying. All those nail techs and companies who sell fake nail products just want to take our hard-earned money and be made rich. No fakes for me! And proud of it. :) |
| Barbara Wheeler IP: 66.82.9.57 6/09/2006 11:44:49 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: If someone comes at me with one of my husbands power tools, I am going to assume they are there to do me harm......... For goodness sake, a little common sense...... And if they are wearing masks and goggles, well, why are they not outfitting the paying customers with same... after all don't they want them safe? I mean the product can splatter into the customers eyes as easily as it splatters into the "techs" eyes. And the clients need clean air as much as the "techs"! I mean don't you want the customer to still be breathing when it is time to pay? {{{{{{{{{{lol}}}}}}}}}} |
| Jessica IP: 66.141.164.137 6/09/2006 22:57:15 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: In the nail shops that I see where I live, I see most of the technicians wearing masks and goggles. I think pretty soon, they could be wearing medical-waste suits too. The chemicals they use will burn the lungs, eyes, and mucous membranes. On the internet, I heard about three more horror stories about those dangerous fakes. The first woman hit one of her acrylics. She said it cracked, ripped off, and was bleeding. She had to have her natural nail surgically removed. The salon also used MMA products, which is what I found out. The second woman got a bad reaction to acrylics. She developed redness around her cuticle areas and she even had to leave her job early because her fingers were puffing and turning purple. Her natural nails were also permanently damaged. The third woman got acrylics, and she claimed that the technician pierced all of her nail beds. She developed a fungal infection and didn't have any nails at all for a year. And about the MMA product, this link has the dangers about it and another horror story. http://www.beautytech.com/articles/abcnews2020_042002.pdf That's just a reason why I'm sticking with my own natural nails! |
| Hol IP: 68.38.136.222 6/10/2006 08:08:40 | RE: solar nails/acrylic nails Message: Plain and simple it all boils down to $s. What about the tobacco industry and that drug (associated with Merk) that was taken off the market. These two examples I just stated had interoffice memos that actually stated negative things about the product and it was still released to the public. Remember the almighty dollar!!!!!!!!!!! I have a feeling nail salons are headed down the same path and soon enough they will be banned. |
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